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phampton
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Safety of discharging a patient with a non-valved PICC or central line

Currently we have do not allow patient's with open-ended or non-valved VAD's to be discharged for home therapy or to LTC. 

 But we are seeing a large number of hemolyzed specimens following blood draws from a valved PICC and are considering a non-valved PICC.

Just wondering about the safety of discharging a patient with a non-valved or open-ended PICC.  Can anyone share their experiences or policies? 
thanks Peggy

lynncrni
 Not all hospials use CVADs

 Not all hospials use CVADs that have an integral valve and they send patients home all the time. The use of a CVAD with an integral valve is not required for home care. In fact, there are several case reports where the Groshong valve has allowed air embolism in a home care patient because of thrombus accumulation holding the valve open. There are other reports of explanted valved catheters with intraluminal clotted blood, again due to an open valve from thrombus/fibrin. Even with a valved catheter, all precautions for prevention of air embolism are required. 

RE hemolysed samples, how do you know that the valve in the CVAD is causing this. More than likely it is the technique being used to withdraw the sample. 

Lynn

Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RN, NPD-BC, CRNI

Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.

PO Box 10

Milner, GA 30257

Website http://www.hadawayassociates.com

Office Phone 770-358-7861

phampton
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hemolyzed specimens

Lynn, thanks for the response. The PICC vendor shared reluctantly, that they recently switched to a new valve that was "stiffer" at approximately the same time our hemolysis rates tripled. We also did some mini studies using experienced, trained nurses and different drawing techniques using to see if the process was an issue. No matter which process we used, vacutainer versus syringe draw, there was no real affect on the hemolysis rate. The only thing we can conclude is that is the catheter itself.

One of the trial arms included using a smaller syringe (5ml) to withdraw the blood with a slight improvement in the hemolysis rate. What are you thoughts on that? 

Thanks, Peggy

Peggy Hampton, RN

Clinical Education Specialist

Yuma Regional Medical Center

Ann Williams RN CRNI
I have been doing Home

I have been doing Home Infusion for 19 years now.  We get patients from a variety of hospitals/states.  I can't remember the last time we had a valved catheter, and have never had to be concerned about this issue or had any problems presented.  Good luck!

mollyj
what valved catheter do you

what valved catheter do you use?  We have seen an increase in hemolysis with the bioflo picc.  We have let our rep know of the concerns and they are adjusting the tension on the valve to reduce this problem.  Just curious. Thanks!

Molly

Molly M. Black, RN, BSN, CRNI, VA-BC

Specialty Practice Nurse

Vascular Access Team/Clinical Education and Practice

Indiana University Health Bloomington

812.353.9021 l 812.353.5062 (fax)

[email protected]

 

 

Molly Judge, RN, BSN, CRNI, VA-BC

Specialty Practice RN

IU Health Bloomington Hospital

Diane C Lauer
open or non-valved PICC

Do you agree that all PICC that do not have a continuous infusion are indeed valved PICCs?

The valve may not be intergral.

The facility may be using a PICC with a valve which is applied.

It could be a positive, neutral, or neg displacement valve.

The PICC would definitely have a valve on it, right?

 There would be no difference in care except the cap needs to be changed with the dressing change, correct?

Celia Brown

lynncrni
 I don't think I agree with

 I don't think I agree with you. Any catheter with any type of valve built into the internal or external catheter is quite different from a needleless connector added to the catheter. When I talk and write about a valved catheter, I am referring only to that family of catheters with a valve built intlo the catheter itself. A needleless connector is a separate device. This is the approach taken by the INS textbook and the INS SOP. Lynn

Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RN, NPD-BC, CRNI

Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.

PO Box 10

Milner, GA 30257

Website http://www.hadawayassociates.com

Office Phone 770-358-7861

AMParry
Safety of discharging a patient with a non-valved PICC or centra

I have been doing home care and home infusion for a number of years at various home care/home infusion companies.  Most of the PICCs and other CVAD's we care for are not vavled.  We do not have any more problems with one type vs another.  We get many types and brands from a multitude of facilities.

 

Ann Marie

Ann Marie Parry, RN, CRNI, VA-BC

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